TONY'S BLOG

Mobile phone versus Bible

2008-02-02T18:16:00.000Z

I loved this thought I received via e-mail from a friend it is something to make you go...hmm...where is my Bible?

I wonder what would happen if we treated our Bible
like we treat our mobile phones?

What if we carried it around in our purses or pockets?

What if we turned back to go get it if we forgot it?

What if we flipped through it several times a day?

What if we used it to receive messages from the text?

What if we treated it like we couldn't live without it?

What if we gave it to kids as gifts?

What if we used it as we travelled?

What if we used it in case of an emergency?

What if we upgraded it to get the latest version?

Food for thought don't you think?

Sticks & Stones & Technology

2008-01-07T11:00:00.000Z

PC speak can be infuriatingly pedantic and more than a little bit irritating, while I have some sympathy with the end I do sometimes find the means more of a hindrance than a help at times. instead of giving another take on the truth it can often end up fudging or in some cases erasing it altogether. That said it can also raise a smile, for example in a paper back dictionary of PC speak I came across the following entries. Failure = a negative success ; Criminal = ethically challenged ; Dead = living impaired.

As the Church we are called to be involved in the business of communication and to do this in a world shaped by the new dynamics of instant global electronic information technologies. The technologies that enable, e-mail, blogging, podcasting and texting are rapidly changing the context of our communication. Our church has recently ventured into the world of podcasting our Sunday messages. The experience has made me very much aware that the technology that opens the world to us also opens us, and our words to the world. It has forced me to examine both my own attitudes and language. In such an 'open world' we can no longer maintain a dichotomy between what we say 'in house' and what we say to the world. The willingness to 'put our words out there' carries with it the assumption that the world, will read or hear whatever we say to our own. It begs the question, " Are we willing not to use language behind the back of unbelievers concerning their culture and location that we would not use face to face in sharing the message and love of Christ? "

I have in the past been part of a church culture that often used certain metaphors and words as motivational tools, especially in the context of missions. As a missionary and as a preacher I have used words like “army”, “advance”, “attack,” “battle”, “commandos”, “enemy”, “foe,” “forces,” “marching orders,” “mobilize”, “target”, “victory,” “weapons,”. I now appreciate how these 'in house' words in the 'open world' of global communications could easily be misunderstood and cause unnecessary offense to onlookers and listeners. They are not the words I would use in a face to face conversation with an interested seeker and if that is the case should I use them in any context?

Our language can be used to build bridges or barriers and we do well to remember that barriers built with words are the most difficult to dismantle.

A 'disturbing' Christmas

2007-12-31T17:26:00.000Z

The Christmas tree and all of its' trappings comes down in our house tomorrow. 2008 will have arrived and we, like many others, will have put away Christmas for another year.

The 'Christmas story', with its tales of old age and teenage pregnancies, of paranoid politicians and asylum seekers, tax hungry governments and state sponsored terrorism, hardly seems the stuff for 'family viewing Christmas specials' over the holidays. But somehow we have manged to take 'His' story sanitize it and make it fit to put on inoffensive greeting cards. It will now be put back on the shelf for another twelve months

I guess I am writing in this slightly 'bah humbug' tone because I have been 'disturbed ' this year, not by the perennial consumerism, but rather by the contents of the original story. It was while preparing a series on the 'Mission of God' that I found myself 'staring' at the people and the events described in the gospels of Matthew and Luke. I was struck by the daring and the danger that runs right through the story. The word that most came to mind as I read the story(s) again was courage. It is a virtue that marked all of those involved (including God) at the beginning of the 'Mission of God'. It is a virtue that I believe we need to possess if we are going to be effective in playing our part in the Mission of God in 2008.

Knowing what we hope for and who we believe in will not be enough to get the job done in the coming year. The courage of personal and corporate convictions are vital to our effectiveness in 2008.

Winning at the cost of our identity

2007-11-29T16:40:00.000Z

"English soccer is in crisis" say the pundits. 'The debacle of England's defeat by Croatia is simply another symptom of the nation's ongoing decline as a world soccer power.' Many point to the global TV ratings for Premiership games together with the increasing influx of overseas players presently playing in the premiership (check out the player list for teams like Arsenal and Liverpool etc). One leading figure in FIFA has dared to suggest that English Premiership clubs hunger for trophies at any cost poses a very real threat to England losing it's identity as a soccer nation.

Winning at the cost of our identity - gaining the world but losing our soul in the process.

The challenge for those at the helm of English soccer of balancing the winning & identity conundrum is a perennial one for the Church. It was there from the very beginning with Jesus at the very outset of his ministry in his encounters with his enemy in the wilderness.The hunger for success and it's trappings i.e. size , fame , influence can be very seductive for those of us engaged in the work of building and growing church. The challenge and call is always to align our efforts with our 'North Star' and to beware the seductive charm of 'winning' at the cost of our identity.

"I miss God"

2007-10-10T11:51:00.000+01:00

I have been laid up for a few days with a 'flu like' virus and irritating as it has been to feel 'incapacitated'. But it has also been an opportunity to deal with a nagging sense that something is amiss in my spirit as though something is 'out of joint' with my relationship with God and the work he has called me to. If I was asked to define the nagging feeling I guess I would of said 'I miss God'. What really helped me to see what 'ailed' me was the following excerpt from one of my favourite writers on spirituality speaking about his own efforts to be that which he was called to be by the Church and to do that work God had asked him to do.

"Basically all I am doing is trying to get it straight, get straight what it means to be a pastor, and then develope a spirituality adequate to the work...I do not find the emaciated,exhausted spirituality of institutional careerism adequate. I do not find the veneered,cosmetic spirituality of personal charisma adequate. I require something Biblically spiritual - rooted and cultivated in creation and covenant, leisurely in Christ and soaked in the Spirit."

A spirituality that is "'leisurely in Christ..." and"soaked in the Spirit." that is what I aspire to and will try to 'get straight' in the days ahead.

A New Location - a continuing challenge.

2007-10-02T09:51:00.000+01:00

We opened up the doors to Eikon's new location ( a room above an Edinburgh Community Arts Cafe called The Forest) for our first Sunday gathering this weekend.The turn out was a 60/40% mix of regulars and visitors.

What is becoming increasingly obvious to us (as it is no doubt to all city churches) is that ministering in a city brings with it a whole new set of challenges. Cities by their very nature are places where people come to do rather than to be to get rather than to give. Doing and being church in this environment brings with it the exciting challenge of being a 'good news community' in the midst of a city community that is in a constant state of flux. Edinburgh, like all cities is a place with a heady mixture of those who have chosen to make the city their home and those who are 'just passing through'. The community that make up Eikon has been a reflection of that phenomenon of 'stayers 'and 'visitors' . What has been up to now a fairly consistent flow of 'Eikon temps' have brought with them the challenge for Eikon to be a place, where regardless of how long people stay with us, they will not fail to meet with the challenge that Jesus calls all of us to and hopefully in the process find their lives changed for the better after being among us.

What if ??

2007-08-30T03:52:00.000+01:00

It is 4am having difficulty sleeping and find myself wondering what it was like before we became the church. I am wondering what it was like for the first ones who choose to believe him and to build their lives around him.

I find myself asking "What if ...? kind of questions. Questions like, what if there were no computers or mobile phones, websites or conference calls. What if there were no fax machines or telephones, no TV or radio, no movies, no multi media presentations. What if there were no sound systems, electric guitars or synthesizers, no leadership seminars.

What if all we had was each other and our stories of our experience of Jesus. No leather bound bibles with cross references and concordances. Just the odd letter from one of Jesus' personal friends sharing some of their thoughts with us about this life we have chosen to live. And if we were lucky may some portion of the Jewish scriptures that we would have read and explained to us once a week. Would it be enough, would we stick around, would we survive as the church of God or would we simply ...?

Schools for Sinners

2007-08-09T17:43:00.001+01:00

I came across this quote from Richard Holloway's book and thought it worth sharing. I personally loved his quotation of Augustine's description of the Church as, "school for sinners, not a museum for saints".

"The community of faith is a community of longing, not possession. It is for those who have glimpsed something of the divine, as well as for those who have not, but long to.
It is for those who have achieved some level of discipline and control in their lives and for those who have not, but long to.
St Augustine once described the Church as a school for sinners, not a museum for saints.
It should be as wide as humanity; it should include all who wish to be attached to it; it should welcome their desire to explore the mystery that besets us.'"

From Dancing On The Edge by Richard Holloway, former Bishop of Edinburgh in the Scottish Episcopal Church

Pentecost @ the Edinburgh Festival / Fringe

2007-08-09T13:59:00.000+01:00

It is a a regular 'Pentecost' here at the Edinburgh festival. The High Street is a sea of street performers, bemused tourists and folk in every manner of dress distributing glossy fliers advertising shows to satisfy the theatrical taste of one and all. Sixteen thousand acts will be in town over the next three weeks all competing for the attention of an audience speaking in diverse tongues, awash with spare cash and eager to be entertained. Actors laden with fliers hustle in the streets trying to get passers bye to go to see their show. Every man and his dog with any kind of act is competing in the fragile hope that not only will people come to their show but perhaps this year might be their 'break out year' that this year they will become an 'established act' one that can guarantee a committed crowd of enamoured fans.

The site, the sounds and the experience is a living illustration of where the Church now finds herself in this pre-Constantine, Post- Christian Europe. We find ourselves once again like the early Christians competing in the 'market place' for people's attention in the hope that not only will they come to our 'show' but that they will stay and that this year will be 'our break out year'. A year when we will become an established act with a guaranteed crowd. Like Peter and the guys on that fateful day two thousand years ago we hope that God will show up and do something to help us create a 'context for the conversation', a this is that moment that will give us a 'break out year'.

Whereas in the past we may have owned the theatre now we are just one of the many acts competing for people's attention and we had better be good at what we do and deliver on what we are offering because the competition is fierce in 'life's market place'.

Is (2+1 = 6) a relational possiblity ?

2007-07-26T13:45:00.000+01:00

2+1= 6 ??? I have been reflecting on why Jesus choose the term friend to describe his relationship with his team. I know numerically 2+1=6 does not make sense but instead of thinking about numbers think about it in relational terms, in particular you and me and the various relationships we have with other people.

For example A and B are friends with each other and they are also friends with C. C is able to bring something previously unseen in A's character and personality. Perhaps an 'A' that B has never 'seen' or 'known' before and can only stand back and appreciate. In the same way C's relationship with B reveals and aspect, a strength in B's character that A cannot reveal but can nonetheless enjoy. It is also possible that there also elements in A's personality that only B seems to able to bring out , and visa-versa, to the good and enjoyment of all. (Without wanting to sound too weird but there may be more A's than the 'one' that B and C know) It almost as if there are parts of us (hopefully the best of us) that only certain others can bring out in us - that in a sense they reveal another us, that would not be seen or known without these other people in our lives. (Think of a couple before and after they become parents. There are certain aspects of a partners personality and character that only their children can reveal to the other partner)

Perhaps that is why when Jesus was choosing a relational term to describe the relationships in His ministry team he choose the inclusive term, friends. We all individually, can only draw out certain strengths or aspects of another person's character. It takes a family, a community, a group of friends to bring out and to appreciate all of those aspects that are best in each one of us. In other words it takes everyone to reveal all that is best in anyone.

Community is a God ordained environment designed to highlight the fact that none of us can ever discover the best in us without the rest of us. And that is why in relational terms 2+1 can sometimes = 6.

The Theosection Question ???

2007-07-13T15:41:00.000+01:00

Been awhile I know, but then I have been away on a 25th wedding anniversary trip to New York (great city even better anniversary) but more about that another time.

What I want to share with you today are some thoughts, questions really about - theosection. I am not sure if that is a real word but stay with me and hopefully the concept will become a little clearer. The question it relates to is "What terms does God require of those who would understand God?"

What I mean is this, anything that we give ourselves to the serious study of whether it is the mating habits of Snow Leopards or the creative process involved in writing of poetry etc every object of study demands requirements of its students. Every object / subject of study requires specific tools and the exercise of certain disciplines that need to be used and followed if the student is to have any hope of achieving an understanding of it. These tools and disciplines, needed for obtaining of a proper understanding of the object of study are shaped not by the student but by the object / subject the student wants to study.

Dissection is a word that we are probably more familiar with and involves the taking apart or breaking down of something into its' constituent parts in order to understand how it is made and functions etc. Dissection is also an exercise that more often than not takes place in a sterile, impersonal environment (i.e. not the natural life environment of the subject / object) on terms and conditions shaped by those doing the dissecting.

Is it possible that we have mistakenly used the same approach to theology and our 'study of God'. That our study of God has removed God from the natural life environment that is so essential to a proper understanding of God. In other words in our theological studies have we engaged in the impersonal work of - theosection, an all too often sterile and impersonal work shaped by our tools and our agendas rather than subjecting ourselves to those..."terms that God requires of those who would study God?"

Fossilization

2007-06-18T22:10:00.000+01:00

I have a thing about words recently especially adverbs. Yesterday I worked the word 'smoltification' into a sermon. Today it is the turn of the word - fossilization - It is a word that when used in an educational context describes a process whereby the mental processes that influence our way of learning have become so 'encrusted' and 'hardened' as to make further learning almost impossible. Apparently if we allow - fossilisation - to happen to us, our habitual learning methods will become 'self limiting' paradigms. One of the results of - fossilization - is a limited or insular way of viewing not only our own culture/environment but any new cultures/environments we come in contact with.

Apparently the only way to avoid this happening to us is to continually subject our presuppositions to regular 'reality checks'. For those committed to following the model and sharing the message of Jesus the best kind of reality check for their faith presuppositions is the practice of perpetual engagement with their surrounding culture i.e. mission. My own personal experience is that often when we take our understanding of Jesus' message to the 'frontiers' we discover that 'our message' very often contains elements that do not function so well. If such reality checks do their job correctly we will engage in some serious reflection and hopefully avoid the 'encrusting fossilization process' and instead discover an increasingly fresher 'living theology' that helps our neighbours to reconnect - (the root meaning of the word religion) - with the real God as opposed to 'our fossilized version of God.'

"Mission is the mother of theology" Martin Kahler

Wait ! Wait!

2007-05-03T15:46:00.000+01:00

First apologies, all those promises to blog and then nothing, in my defense my computer went awol and has only recently just returned.

What has happened in the interim well I have been lingering around the word 'wait'. One of those favourite OT words you know the ones "they that wait.... or "wait before the Lord..." the ones that people who find themselves tired, haggard or just frayed around the edges like to read from time to time. Well apparently the word "wait" in those contexts means do 'absolutely nothing' can you believe that.

I have been thinking about why the Bible would advise us to "do nothing..!" Could it be another way of giving ourselves an ego check, another way of telling us that the world does not need more of us but less of us and more of God. That you do not need more of you, but less of you and more of God. For example maybe instead of reading more, we should read less ! instead of doing more, do less! I mean ask yourself do we advance more in the Christian life by "doing more...reading more...etc". Do you get to know God better by being more competent, more knowledgeable, more busy?

Is this use of the word 'wait' a way of telling us that with God it is less about the task and more about the relationship less about the knowledge and more about the knowing? How do we grow in a relationship? How do you have more to share with others about the person you know and love?
Just some thoughts, not some prescriptions though.

I love - hate blogging !!

2007-04-12T18:07:00.000+01:00

To 'blog or not to blog'? I must confess I have love - hate feelings about blogging. I can not escape the vague feelings of embarassment at what feels like a slightly pretentious thing to do. I have never been a fan of 'editorial opions' nor do I particularily like those "books and magazines that tell us what to be and what to see while we are being" and some how blogging as a lead pastor feels a little like that. I am sure a lot of this is down to my own 'issues'.

All that said, I have decided to commit on regular basis to this experience and as I venture forth I have one other misgiving about 'my blog'. Does it really do anything for any body -(that is not a veiled plea for some ego stroking) - Judging from the sparse comments /replies one wonders how many if any will read these and the other musings that will follow in the near future. It is sort of like the 'prayer experience' , (which I am speaking about @ this coming Sunday's Eikon gathering ) you can not help but wonder is anybody listening and does it really make a difference one way or another. In the next few weeks I am going to use the blog as a therapeutic tool to bear my honest thoughts about my life and living as a follower of Jesus. Those who do read this blog please keep in mind that what I write is not meant as any form of 'holy writ' just my musings

To De or not to De ?

2007-03-26T22:58:00.000+01:00

I had two conversations this weekend that I am finding hard to get out of my head probably because they touched on a subject close to my heart, the nature and growth of the church.

The first conversation with an experienced pastor , related to the 'science' of church growth. We discussed such things as how many times a visitor needs to be 'touched' in order for them to feel welcomed by the 'group'. This 'touching' apparently, the experts tell us, helps people within eleven minutes of entering the meeting /building to decide whether not they will return.

The other conversation, with a young Christian leader, concerned church planting by means of demographic targeting. The demographic group in question was the so called 'missing generation' of 20 /30 somethings. My friend informed me that in church planting circle the US, demographic targeting of this particular group is all the rage.

One of the questions banging around in my head is, by using demographic targeting are we planting church or a 'modified church experience' that is being passed off as church? (More on this later)

Feedback, the key to perpetual learning

2007-03-20T11:09:00.000Z

I remember reading how that Jesuit priests as part of their training to take time before making a key decison to write down what results they anticipate. Nine months later they then feedback from the results to their original anticipations. This process is expected to help the priest to discover what he does well and where his strenghts are. It also enables the priest to learn what he has to learn and what habits he needs to change. Ultimately the habit helps the priest to discover what he is not gifted for and and what he cannot do well.

I have tried to follow this habit myself and discovered how helpful it is in discovering what I am good at and where improvement is needed. Very importantly, however, it has helped me to discover what I am not good at and should not attempt to do. Knowledge of what you can and cannot do are vital to effective living not just for for individuals but also for church communities. But the key to obtaining such knowledge lies in continuous feedback without it we are doomed to repeat our failures. Why not make it a habit to seek and to give useful and honest feedback for the good of one and all.

Mission & Quantum Physics

2007-03-14T15:10:00.000Z

I want to share the following extract from one of my favourite books ; Margaret J. Wheatley's: Leadership and the New Science.

"In the twentieth century physicists faced for the first time, a serious challenge to their ability to understand the universe. Everytime they asked nature a question in an atomic experiment, nature answered with a paradox, and the more they tried to clarify the situation, the sharper the pardoxes became. In their struggle to grasp this new reality, scientists became painfully aware that their basic concepts, their language, and their whole way of thinking were inadequate to describe atomic phenomena. Their problem was not only intellectual but involved an intense emotional and existential experience, vividly described by Werner Heisenberg: "I remember discussions with Bohr which went through many hours till very late at night and ended almost in despair" ; .......Even after the mathematical formulation of quantum theory was completed, its conceptual framework was by no means easy to accept. Its effect on the physicists view of reality was truly shattering. The new physics' view of reality necessitated profound changes in concepts of space, time, matter; object, and cause and effect; and because these concepts were so fundemental to our way of experiencing the world, their transformation came as a great and profound shock.

As I reflected on the story of how scientist like Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg and their collegues struggled to comprehend the new reality and the challenges it presented; I could not help but feel that the challenges that faced those early pioneers of Quantum Physics is not dis-similar to the missional challenge facing the Church in postmodern, post-Christian world of 21st century Europe. Perhaps much of what we regard as fundemental to the existence and shape of 'our' Christianity are merely the expressions of an understanding limited by such things as culture, knowledge, predjuices and asking and seeking the answers to the wrong questions.

Causes & Contexts

2007-03-06T10:59:00.000Z

I have been thinking a lot recently about causes and contexts and how important they are to the doing of useful ministry. How much of what we think of as useful ministry is determined by our agenda, our objectives, the subconscious need to satisfy a need in us rather than the needs of those we are called to be the servants of. When I read the accounts of Jesus' miracles I can not help but be struck by the fact that he did what he did not to prove who he was but because of who he was. It caused me to reflect on how much of the motivation behind the things we do in the 'name' ministry stems from an effort to prove who we are rather than because of who we are.

If we do the things we do out of some kind of unconscious need to prove something to ourselves or others more often than not we play lip service to context. If ,however, we do what we do because of who we are then the context (the needs of those we are called to serve) will shape the agenda, determine the objectives and always be our primary concern. When it comes to mission we always need to keep before us that our constituency is the World not the Church.

Change, a sign that you are still alive !

2007-02-28T12:12:00.000Z

Some thoughts on change ; of the 100 trillion cells that make up your body several hundred million will die today (and thankfully be replaced by several hundred million new ones). Your body already has 5 pounds of dead cells sticking to it ( gross thought eh!). Your skin replaces itself every month. The lining of your cheeks is replaced 3 times a day. Your stomach lining replaces itself every 5 days. Your liver replaces itself every 6 weeks. Your skeleton replaces itself every 3 years. 98% of all the atoms in your body are replaced every year. Face it if you don't change you are already dead.

2007-02-21T13:19:00.000Z

The Funny side of relationships

A husband and wife were having a disagreement and were giving each other the 'silent treatment'.
Just before they went to bed the husband remembered he needed his wife to wake him at 5 am for an early morning flight.
But he not did want to be the first one to speak ( and LOSE the argument).
So, he wrote a note saying ' Wake me at 5 am" and put it where she would see it.
He woke the next morning at 9 am, furious at having missed his flight .He was about to storm off to find his wife when he noticed a note by his side of the bed, It said " It is 5 am".

Guys are just not equipped to win these kind of fights.

2007-02-20T15:03:00.000Z

We are all related

"There is a kind of food
not taken through the mouth;
bits of knowing that nourish love.
The body and the human personality form a cup.
Every time you meet someone something is poured in."
( Rumi )

"Epistomologically, the things we see (people, objects etc) exist only in relationship and, when analysed microscopically, they too are best viewed as relationships. It is no secret in physics that the closer we analyse some 'thing' the less it appears as a thing and the more it appears as a dynamic process (things in relationship). Consequently, relationships become a primary source of our knowledge of the world." ( Conone )

I have been reading and speaking alot about relationships lately and have been struck by how much of who we are is shaped and determined by relationship. We are born as a result of relationship, raised and nurtured in relationship and find our greatest fulfillment in relationship.The quality of those relationships can make or break a life and because we all live in relationship the ' making and breaking' is never just one life.

'...[The] many parts are needed to form a complete body...' 1Cor 12:12 TLB

2007-02-09T09:56:00.000Z

"There's a wonderful story about Jimmy Durante, one of the truly great entertainers. He was asked to do a show for World War II veterans. He told them he was very busy, but if they wouldn't mind his doing one short monologue and immediately leaving for his next appointment, he'd come. They agreed. But when Jimmy got on stage he went through the short monologue - then stayed, and stayed. Soon he'd been on stage 15, 20, then 30 minutes. Finally he took a last bow and left. Backstage someone stopped him and said 'I thought you had to go after a few minutes. What happened?' Jimmy answered, 'You can see for yourself if you look in the front row.' In the front row were 2 veterans, each of whom had lost an arm in the war. One had lost his right arm and the other had lost his left. Together, they were able to clap, and that's exactly what they were doing, loudly, and cheerfully.

That's the picture of what's supposed to happen at church:'... [the] many parts and all the parts are needed to form a complete body, so it is with Christ's body...' But to enjoy its benefits you have to go, and when you get there, you must reach out to others so that you can know and be known. Pew-sitting, back-of-the-head fellowship won't cut it! Someone sitting next to you has 20/20 vision where you have blind spots, and vice versa. You need their counsel, correction and comfort; and they need yours. When that happens, the church is working like its supposed to." (UCB Word for Today)

At Eikon, we're all about relationship.

Ceilidh Pictures!

2007-02-06T14:55:00.000Z

To see a few more pictures, CLICK HERE.

A context for the conversation

2007-02-05T16:09:00.000Z

The evening was characterized by loud conversation and loud laughter as old friends renewed aquaintance and those who came as strangers discovered that they were among friends. On Saturday night Eikon had it's launch party. One a hundred people from all walks of life, of different ages and numerous nationalities enjoyed eating together, playing together and above all dancing together. It was an evening when those who believed were outnumbered by those who didn't. I truly enjoyed every minute of the five-hour experience.

The event was everything we we hoped for at our launch. But more than that it was what we hope the environment of Eikon will always be, a 'grace space'. A space where those who are seeking will always feel welcome and always out number those who believe. If I was to pick one activity to describe what we were trying to facilitate at our event, it is a context for the conversation.

The more I interact with the people who live in the city of Edinburgh the more I am struck by the fact that on matters of faith, people want to talk. But they want to do it at their own pace and to ask their own qustions. Sadly the experience of being accosted by well meaning rather nervous, fast talking Christians anxious to give them answers to questions that they were not asking has resulted in an initial reluctance to talk to Christians about matters of personal faith. An important part of what we @ Eikon will be doing in the days ahead of us is to faccilitate a natural, comfortable context for those conversations: happily that will involve many more parties. That does does not mean that we are gearing ourselves up to be simply an event orientated church. It does mean that our events will reflect the environment of Eikon and that our environment will always be capable of supporting our events. It is important to us @ Eikon that there is no disonance between who we are as church and what we do as church

2007-01-25T22:17:00.000Z

Hi hello, how are you,

Tony here, I will be posting my 'thoughts' in the next few days (hope they are worth the wait).